The gang at Loggernaut has posted some new interviews and conversations, featuring the likes of Sam Lipsyte and Gary Shteyngart
LRS: Were you a student of Gordon Lish?
Lipsyte: Yes, I studied with him. He published a couple of stories of mine in The Quarterly, after many rejections. They had that great form letter when they rejected you—it was about five hundred words long.
LRS: I was studying writing at college and then this professor showed up, a disciple of Gordon Lish, and we operated according to the Lish method. You start reading your work and then as soon as you hit a false note she made you stop.
Lipsyte: Yeah, Lish would say, "That's bullshit!"
LRS: That process completely derailed me. Took me years to recover my voice. But for you it actually seemed to have some kind of benefit.
Lipsyte: I think the process for me was to unlearn a lot of the sloppy habits I had. I learned a lot of new stuff from Lish. I struggled for a long time, but what you find out at the end is that there's no "method," it's just a way to get to your own thing.
LRS: I'm thinking of the sentence in Venus Drive, "Gary's mother calls Gary." That's a Lishian sentence and you don't find those kinds of sentences in your next book, the novel The Subject Steve, which I think is such a vast improvement, just a big leap forward.
Lipsyte: Yeah, I don't like to use too many cheesy phrases like "finding your voice" but...these stories, some of them I'm still proud of, but they were demonstrations of certain kinds of writing. "Gary's mother calls Gary"—I'd still maintain there's strength to that. You're riding a line and the trick is just to not tip over into something too mannered.
There's lots more where this comes from. And Sam, if you're reading this, we're still waiting for your required reading list, promised to us on that drunken night in L.A. so long ago ...
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